• Natanael@slrpnk.netOP
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    5 months ago

    Did you read about the Trump peace deal (organized via his kids!), which would require only Palestinians to make concessions, giving up land, giving up freedoms, being subject Israel’s security forces, giving them no rights, and which gave all power to Israel (and which obviously fell through)?

    Biden applies political pressure on Netanyahu to push for ceasefire:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/06/02/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine-ceasefire-biden/

    Trump plans to pressure Palestinians:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

    The plan proposed a series of Palestinian enclaves surrounded by an enlarged Israel,

    Netanyahu announced that the Israeli government would immediately annex the Jordan Valley and West Bank settlements while committing not to create new settlements in areas left to the Palestinians for at least four years. U.S. Ambassador to Israel David M. Friedman claimed that the Trump administration had given permission for an immediate annexation, stating that “Israel does not have to wait at all”

    The plan itself places no conditions on Israel with regard to proposals to “annex parts of the West Bank”.[8]

    The plan puts the Palestinians on probation, establishing a set of conditions they must meet and adopting Netanyahu’s view that a shrunken Palestinian entity will be a state in name only; Israel will control of its borders, air space, electro-magnetic spectrum, foreign policy and security

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      5 months ago

      Yes…

      It’s bad when trump supports a genocidal regime…

      It’s bad when Biden supports a genocidal regime…

      Now, here’s the big one. Get up and stretch, take a nice long deep breathe.

      Ready?

      It’s bad when literally fucking anyone supports a genocidal regime.

      Here’s another big one:

      If you excuse Dems for doing something because trump does it too, then if you don’t slow down and look around, you’re going to be supporting someone just like trump, because republicans found some asshole even worse.

      Republicans won’t magically get better

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        I don’t excuse the dems, but you refuse to accept that Trump is 10 000x worse

        Netanyahu would not be angry at Biden for his demands if Biden was fine with everything they do.

        Netanyahu would not prefer to have Trump back if the two were equal.

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          5 months ago

          but you refuse to accept that Trump is 10 000x worse

          No I don’t, because he obviously is.

          It’s just neither of them are good enough to be president.

          Like,you know there’s not really a valid reason to run unpopular neoliberals just because trump is in office right?

          We could just runnwhat Dems historically do very very well with:

          A young charismatic person running a progressive campaign.

          There is literally no reason to be running someone the majority of registered Dem voters don’t want to be president, just because they don’t want the Republican.

          How does that system make any logical sense?

          How will shit ever improve?

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            5 months ago

            Ok, then tell me who that candidate is who can win instead of Biden.

            I’m waiting.

            I am not super fond of Biden, and wouldn’t mind seeing him replaced. But my top priority is harm reduction, and switching to a candidate who can’t beat Trump would send USA into turmoil