• BillyClark@piefed.social
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    1 hour ago

    I can see why you said “framing” and “frameworks”, because that sort of vague criteria is really where any similarities end, but you went too far by saying that it’s “indistinguishable”.

    I was talking about not just murder of a completely innocent child of their own blood, but of an entire clan’s celebration of the event by dancing. It’s the culture that birthed that reaction that is at fault. And all of those people dancing in the streets enabled that murder. There is no chance that the murderer didn’t know they’d get such a positive reaction.

    The culture is wrong. It doesn’t deserve to exist. If they want to change their culture to get rid of the murder of and the celebrating of the murder of innocent children, then the previous culture which condoned those murders will have ceased to exist.

    Just because fascists criticize cultures with harsh language doesn’t mean that any criticism of a culture using similar language needs to be shot down as having similarity to fascism. You can actually look at the specific allegations.

    • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
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      12 minutes ago

      Ok let’s be precise with our language. What culture are you referring to? Do you have a name for it?

      It simply is indistinguishable from fascism because ultimately the fascists decided which cultures were problematic, who was a part of them and therefore who “deserved” to be exterminated.

      Your criticism alone isn’t what likens your view to fascism, its the language you chose, which implies a disregard for inalienable human rights that does.

      Do you, the one who apparently decides which cultures are worthy and which are not, get to decide how a culture is defined and who is a part of it?

      Who is a part of it in this case? Who would you like to erase? People that look like them, speak like them, worship like them?

      We punish individuals for their actions according to the rule of law.

      You may want to go back to a time when we judge individuals based on the actions of those we perceive to be similar to them. I do not.

      I don’t know which culture youve come from to arrive at this worldview, but as problematic and regressive as it is, I still acknowledge your personhood / humanity. I seek not to erase it (despite its flaws) nor do I deem you or anyone “spawned” from it to be unworthy of existance. People, communities and cultures are often indiscrete and in a constant state of adaptation. This type of rhetoric belongs in an era that should be left behind.

      Yours is the language that seeks to enable genocide. Criticize all you want but be mindful of the words you choose.