China has lifted almost a billion people out of the extreme poverty left by colonial exploitation and drug wars.
Lead the way on actual green transition globally and is basically the only large nation meaningfully trying to avert the catastrophe that will render a huge swath of the planet uninhabitable in a few generations displacing billions of people.
Stood up to US and EU exploitative colonial hegemony in favour of international law repeatedly. China continually advocates for actually following the RBO in the face of rapacious USA warmaking.
China has not engaged in an offensive war since the revoltion.
Distributed vaccinations cheaply to nations the west would not sell to during the last pandemic which killed fucking millions of people.
Has set up alternative funding programs for countries to develop that are far less exploitative than IMF loans.
Is all of this self interested to some degree? If course it is. Is it self interested to the detriment of the world? I think you would struggle to make that case when held up next to other superpowers.
What the fuck is your threshold for a good nation? Has anyone in the 21st century met it?
Surveillance and exceptional human rights abuses but overall nothing more than what the average Chinese person is subject to. Apart from those wierd stories about Chinese uncles sleeping in their beds, put out by the BBC.
We’re literally exterminating Arabs, wiping out entire bloodlines, but somehow we give a sht about Muslims in one corner of China? A bit suspect no?
I live in hope the NZ is a net positive on the world - but with the current right of centre coalition we have in power I’m losing that hope, especially at a local NZ level.
Meanwhile, Australia is actually progressing a little bit
If you mean progressing towards a fascist decline sure. We’ve had literal Nazis march in the street alongside politicians who gave their support, an extremely brutal crackdown on the right to protest, right wing parties surging, continued undermining of healthcare and education in favour of the bourgeois, expansion of fossil fuel projects, hardcore backing of ultraright wing militarism in the usa and Japan.
Like chyna so mean… The united NATO powers are crushing baby skulls.
A bad country doing a good thing doesn’t make them good.
China has lifted almost a billion people out of the extreme poverty left by colonial exploitation and drug wars.
Lead the way on actual green transition globally and is basically the only large nation meaningfully trying to avert the catastrophe that will render a huge swath of the planet uninhabitable in a few generations displacing billions of people.
Stood up to US and EU exploitative colonial hegemony in favour of international law repeatedly. China continually advocates for actually following the RBO in the face of rapacious USA warmaking.
China has not engaged in an offensive war since the revoltion.
Distributed vaccinations cheaply to nations the west would not sell to during the last pandemic which killed fucking millions of people.
Has set up alternative funding programs for countries to develop that are far less exploitative than IMF loans.
Is all of this self interested to some degree? If course it is. Is it self interested to the detriment of the world? I think you would struggle to make that case when held up next to other superpowers.
What the fuck is your threshold for a good nation? Has anyone in the 21st century met it?
Literally doing all your comfy life related things
Doing endless r and d
Advancing in renewables
Trying to build a proper community (some might disagree here) The list goes on
You wont find a perfect country but what China doing to the world and its people is far from “bad”.
Except for the whole genociding Muslims thing.
Surveillance and exceptional human rights abuses but overall nothing more than what the average Chinese person is subject to. Apart from those wierd stories about Chinese uncles sleeping in their beds, put out by the BBC.
We’re literally exterminating Arabs, wiping out entire bloodlines, but somehow we give a sht about Muslims in one corner of China? A bit suspect no?
The US doing bad things doesn’t absolve China of doing bad things. It’s not a zero sum game
We can care about both
Are you referring to the US?
No, China. The US stopped doing good things.
No, that would be a bad country doing a shit thing (or 20), doesn’t make them good.
The last few years have really soured me on the idea of nations in general.
I live in hope the NZ is a net positive on the world - but with the current right of centre coalition we have in power I’m losing that hope, especially at a local NZ level.
It is election year…vote like it matters.
I’ve been horrified by what the Kiwi government has been doing
I was disgusted when they were voted in, but sadly, for some reason Aotearoa seems to have become more acutely stupid
Meanwhile, Australia is actually progressing a little bit
If you mean progressing towards a fascist decline sure. We’ve had literal Nazis march in the street alongside politicians who gave their support, an extremely brutal crackdown on the right to protest, right wing parties surging, continued undermining of healthcare and education in favour of the bourgeois, expansion of fossil fuel projects, hardcore backing of ultraright wing militarism in the usa and Japan.
Cunt’s fucked mate.
Albo is definitely better than his predecessors
The US doesn’t really do many good things lately.