Meh. I don’t dispute that there are issues for democracies at the moment. But one of the issues is that the “right-wing” nutjobs often have a few legitimate concerns regarding equity programs, which can function as gateways, enticing people down those paths of thinking. And if anyone raises those more moderate concerns, left-wing progressives attack en masse, practically pushing people along those extremist paths at a faster pace. That gets even more problematic given the electoral systems that’re in place, as well as the general “two sides” structure of many democratic countries.
So while I’d agree that something like an official end to all trans-related rights initiatives would be a negative sign for democracies, I definitely wouldn’t call it the ‘Start’ of the collapse.
As annoying as this’ll be, I’m sure, I’m not even willing to raise them on lemmy at this point. Lemmy leans heavily left, generally speaking, and moderate right-wing comments will get you massively downvoted, and at times banned/censored, even when discussed in a largely theoretical sense.
Sorta like calling out Israel’s genocidal behaviour on Reddit – even if it’s generally ‘true’ / you’re able to support such comments factually, if you talk about it you’ll likely get banned/censored. While you can point in its general direction, actually trying to discuss it is a no-win situation.
Lemmy’s not anonymous. Having accounts banned from communities is not no risk, especially if you lazily want to just use one account on the site.
Stating opinions that are deemed against/negative towards certain niche groups can translate into rule violations – rule 4 specifically states anything deemed transphobic is a rule violation. You quite literally cannot discuss any non-overtly positive viewpoint of any of the groups listed in that rule, without potentially pissing off at least a few people, who would report it and result in a ban. If they get you to reply a few times in a thread, mods are within their rights to ban the person holding the non-majority view based on ‘multiple’ rule violations.
Asking to have a conversation about those topics openly, is just baiting people into getting banned.
So I’ve gotten a handful of upvotes, and about 3x more downvotes, on my initial comment highlighting this bias / trend. So about 1/4 of the people who ‘voted’, generally seem to agree with me – that seems to re-affirm my note that lemmy leans left on this subject in general, and that I’m not alone in this viewpoint.
Rereading what you said, “Lemmy leans left”, yeah you just might be, that’s exactly the kind of crap that is telling.
Who cares what Lemmy “leans”. I don’t give a fuck why do you?
So, you care, considering you’d just used it in a prior response to question my stance / position. Part of that position notes that I care, because user content rules means that if a platform leans left or right, it can become an echo chamber silencing even moderate positions – which was a pretty big part of my initial comments, that you’ve cared enough about to bait me for multiple replies.
I’ve already provided you with my reasoning for not replying in detail. I’m not changing my position on that front just because you decide to pester me. I’mma just go ahead and stop replyin now too, since you either don’t seem to get the point, or you seem to just be trying to bait a reportable offense.
Meh. I don’t dispute that there are issues for democracies at the moment. But one of the issues is that the “right-wing” nutjobs often have a few legitimate concerns regarding equity programs, which can function as gateways, enticing people down those paths of thinking. And if anyone raises those more moderate concerns, left-wing progressives attack en masse, practically pushing people along those extremist paths at a faster pace. That gets even more problematic given the electoral systems that’re in place, as well as the general “two sides” structure of many democratic countries.
So while I’d agree that something like an official end to all trans-related rights initiatives would be a negative sign for democracies, I definitely wouldn’t call it the ‘Start’ of the collapse.
what are those concerns about equity programs and how often does what’s concerned about occur?
As annoying as this’ll be, I’m sure, I’m not even willing to raise them on lemmy at this point. Lemmy leans heavily left, generally speaking, and moderate right-wing comments will get you massively downvoted, and at times banned/censored, even when discussed in a largely theoretical sense.
Sorta like calling out Israel’s genocidal behaviour on Reddit – even if it’s generally ‘true’ / you’re able to support such comments factually, if you talk about it you’ll likely get banned/censored. While you can point in its general direction, actually trying to discuss it is a no-win situation.
you’ve already raised it, just vaguely, which makes you even more unpopular than if you had specified
You are annonymous. You are making claims that you aren’t willing to back up?
Ok so you are peddiling bullshit, because why the hell would you care speaking your mind? You gain nothing, lose nothing by stating something.
Lemmy’s not anonymous. Having accounts banned from communities is not no risk, especially if you lazily want to just use one account on the site.
Stating opinions that are deemed against/negative towards certain niche groups can translate into rule violations – rule 4 specifically states anything deemed transphobic is a rule violation. You quite literally cannot discuss any non-overtly positive viewpoint of any of the groups listed in that rule, without potentially pissing off at least a few people, who would report it and result in a ban. If they get you to reply a few times in a thread, mods are within their rights to ban the person holding the non-majority view based on ‘multiple’ rule violations.
Asking to have a conversation about those topics openly, is just baiting people into getting banned.
Nope. Not buying a word of this crap. It is annonymous. An account is meaningless, you can create another one at a different instance.
You made a claim, I am calling bullshit.
Maybe you simply are trabsphobic.
Rereading what you said, “Lemmy leans left”, yeah you just might be, that’s exactly the kind of crap that is telling.
So I’ve gotten a handful of upvotes, and about 3x more downvotes, on my initial comment highlighting this bias / trend. So about 1/4 of the people who ‘voted’, generally seem to agree with me – that seems to re-affirm my note that lemmy leans left on this subject in general, and that I’m not alone in this viewpoint.
So? Votes? Who cares. Again you going to say something or just be inflammatory?
Who cares what Lemmy “leans”. I don’t give a fuck why do you?
Got something to say or not?
So, you care, considering you’d just used it in a prior response to question my stance / position. Part of that position notes that I care, because user content rules means that if a platform leans left or right, it can become an echo chamber silencing even moderate positions – which was a pretty big part of my initial comments, that you’ve cared enough about to bait me for multiple replies.
I’ve already provided you with my reasoning for not replying in detail. I’m not changing my position on that front just because you decide to pester me. I’mma just go ahead and stop replyin now too, since you either don’t seem to get the point, or you seem to just be trying to bait a reportable offense.
It doesn’t come off as annoying, but it certainly does detract from any credibility you are trying to have.
If what you are saying is correct, losing an imaginary, anonymous popularity contest doesn’t seem like a good enough reason to keep quiet.
A persecution complex is an important part of any right-wing ideology.