U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres arrived at the BRICS summit in the Russian city of Kazan on Oct. 22, despite criticism from Ukraine, Voice of America reported.

The BRICS group, a bloc of countries that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, and the United Arab Emirates, is convening in Kazan for a three-day summit from Oct. 22-24. According to Moscow, 36 world leaders are participating in the conference.

Guterres is expected to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the event on Oct. 24, according to Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov.

Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry criticized the U.N. secretary general’s visit.

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    Hezbollah is in Lebanon. Why do they have the right to keep rocket shelling Israël?

    Gaza occupation had ended, settlers where removed, Israel closed it off as gazans have no right to enter Israël, if Israël don’t want them too. Egypt had the border closed too, I guess the people in Gaza are not ones you let into your country.

    West bank I have nothing to add, the whole settler stuff is criminal and Israel needs to do to the Jewish settlers there what they did with Gaza settlers, convoy them out back into Israël proper and wall of the border.

    The issue is landlocked countries need to play nice with their neighbors and Palestinians have no friends on their borders. Neither Jordan not Syria want open borders with them, cause of the whole attempted coup by the PLO, sectarian “differences” and terrorism.

    The fact that terrorist organisations like Hezbollah, Hamas and the PLO are so intertwined with civilian life in the Palestinian territory is an issue… for the Palestinians as it makes everyone in the organisation a valid target.

    Edit: Jerusalem should be split off and given a status similar to the Vatican and governed by representatives from both sides imo.

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      The occupation never ended, it became more extreme with the blockade

      De-development via the Gaza Occupation

      The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972.

      Between July 1971 and February 1972, Sharon enjoyed considerable success. During this time, the entire Strip (apart from the Rafah area) was sealed off by a ring of security fences 53 miles in length, with few entrypoints. Today, their effects live on: there are only three points of entry to Gaza—Erez, Nahal Oz, and Rafah.

      Perhaps the most dramatic and painful aspect of Sharon’s campaign was the widening of roads in the refugee camps to facilitate military access. Israel built nearly 200 miles of security roads and destroyed thousands of refugee dwellings as part of the widening process.’ In August 1971, for example, the Israeli army destroyed 7,729 rooms (approximately 2,000 houses) in three vola- tile camps, displacing 15,855 refugees: 7,217 from Jabalya, 4,836 from Shati, and 3,802 from Rafah.

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      Through 1993 Israel imposed a one-way system of tariffs and duties on the importation of goods through its borders; leaving Israel for Gaza, however, no tariffs or other regulations applied. Thus, for Israeli exports to Gaza, the Strip was treated as part of Israel; but for Gazan exports to Israel, the Strip was treated as a foreign entity subject to various “non-tariff barriers.” This placed Israel at a distinct advantage for trading and limited Gaza’s access to Israeli and foreign markets. Gazans had no recourse against such policies, being totally unable to protect themselves with tariffs or exchange rate controls. Thus, they had to pay more for highly protected Israeli products than they would if they had some control over their own economy. Such policies deprived the occupied territories of significant customs revenue, estimated at $118-$176 million in 1986. (Arguably, the economic terms of the Gaza—Jericho Agreement modify the situation only slightly.')

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      In a report released in May 2015, the World Bank revealed that as a result of Israel’s blockade and OPE, Gaza’s manufacturing sector shrank by as much as 60 percent over eight years while real per capita income is 31 percent lower than it was 20 years ago. The report also stated that the blockade alone is responsible for a 50 percent decrease in Gaza’s GDP since 2007. Furthermore, OPE (com- bined with the tunnel closure) exacerbated an already grave situation by reducing Gaza’s economy by an additional $460 million.

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      • The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy

      Blockade, including Aid

      Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.

      After the ‘disengagement’ in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of ‘dual-use’ Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.

      The blockade and Israel’s repeated military offensives have had a heavy toll on Gaza’s essential infrastructure and further debilitated its health system and economy, leaving the area in a state of perpetual humanitarian crisis. Indeed, Israel’s collective punishment of Gaza’s civilian population, the majority of whom are children, has created conditions inimical to human life due to shortages of housing, potable water and electricity, and lack of access to essential medicines and medical care, food, educational equipment and building materials.

      Settlements, Occupation, and Apartheid

      Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.

      This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.

      The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:

      Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:

      While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements

      The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.

      The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.

      Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing

      Peace Process and Solution

      Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

      How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

      ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

      One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

      Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.

      During the current war, Hamas officials have said that the group does not want to return to ruling Gaza and that it advocates for forming a government of technocrats to be agreed upon by the various Palestinian factions. That government would then prepare for elections in Gaza and the West Bank, with the intention of forming a unified government.

      On Hezbollah:

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        Unfortunately the spoiler tags didn’t work, but I appreciate the attempt to keep it readable and split the wall of text.

        I admit it’s a shit show and the last decades have done nothing but further radicalize both sides. The unconditional support Israël seems to get is also bullshit… they need to be toned down.

        The settlements in the west bank will get no defense from me, even the Olso accords that made this possible are bullshit… Israel should not be there or at least have no civilians there. 3 zones… ppppffff…

        The Gaza Strip should have an open border with at least the sea, but if Gaza again sparks violence like in the 90s and October last year, they will be at war again. And bad faith proposals like the Oct 8th swap by Hamas can be ignored… with dire consequences.

        Hezbollah is just an Iranian vanity project to fuck with Israël and the US for minimal cost, same as the Houthi rebels in Yemen. Edit: the graph seems disingenuous. As a single attack with 62 missiles by Hezbollah is 1 attack, an f35 throwing a bomb on Hezbollah is 1 attack…

        And the Golan heights will never be returned as it’s too important a deterrence against Syria.

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          It may be your app if the spoilers aren’t working, they are on Thunder.

          Iran did not create Hamas, Hezbollah, or Houthis. They all began as anti-colonialist resistance and have their own aims.

          GDF’s video on how Hezbollah began is well sourced and thoroughly layed out. The thumbnail is edgy clickbait I recommend to ignore, but the video is genuine.

          Yemen has been undergoing a US-Saudi backed genocide for years.

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          Guterres put the crisis in stark perspective, emphasizing the near complete lack of security for the Yemeni people. More than 22 million people out of a total population of 28 million are in need of humanitarian aid and protection. Eighteen million people lack reliable access to food; 8.4 million people “do not know how they will obtain their next meal.”

          Besides Saudi Arabia, the coalition attacking Yemen includes the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, Kuwait and Bahrain. Qatar was part of the coalition but is no longer.

          Based on the information available to it using open sources, YDP reports that two-thirds of the coalition’s bombing attacks have been against non-military and unknown targets. The coalition isn’t accidentally attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure – it’s doing it deliberately.

          The air and naval blockade, in effect since March 2015, “is essentially using the threat of starvation as a bargaining tool and an instrument of war,” according to the UN panel of experts on Yemen.

          The coalition’s genocide in Yemen would not be possible without the complicity of the U.S. This has been a bipartisan presidential effort, covering both the Obama and Trump administrations.

          U.S. arms are being used to kill Yemenis and destroy their country. In 2016, well after the coalition began its genocidal assault on Yemen, four of the top five recipients of U.S. arms sales were members of the coalition.

          The U.S. has also provided the coalition with logistical support, including mid-air refueling, targeting advice and support, intelligence, expedited munitions resupply and maintenance.

          US complicity in the Saudi-led genocide in Yemen spans Obama, Trump administrations

    • Sundial@lemm.ee
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      Hezbollah is in Lebanon. Why do they have the right to keep rocket shelling Israël?

      Because Israel attacked them and has repeatedly escalated the conflict over the past 12 months.

      Gaza occupation had ended, settlers where removed, Israel closed it off as gazans have no right to enter Israël, if Israël don’t want them too.

      Gaza was described as the largest open air prison by experts around the world.

      Egypt had the border closed too, I guess the people in Gaza are not ones you let into your country.

      That’s an incredibly disgusting generalization to say regarding an oppressed population. These people are being isolated and oppressedfrom the world due to their much more powerful and well-funded neighbors and you’re just sitting there saying “Yeah they’re not the kind of people I would want to let in”.

      The fact that terrorist organisations like Hezbollah, Hamas and the PLO are so intertwined with civilian life in the Palestinian territory is an issue

      Hamas was funded and propped up thanks in large part to Israel.

      Hezbollah started as a direct result of Israeli aggression in the 80s and 90s. Israel occupied the south of Lebanon throughout the 90s and Hezbollah harassed them so much they were forced to leave. This conflict is Israel’s second chance on this whole settlement project.

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        So why don’t Jordan and Egypt have open borders with Gaza and the west bank then? What’s the deal there? Why have the Palestinians never been a sorbed I to the populations of the other regions countries, like the Jews kicked out of these countries where in Israël?

        And about not letting Palestinians in… this is not me saying it, it’s what the other Arab countries are actively doing… while saying they care for the faith of their brethren.

        And yeah, Hezbollah and Israel have been shooting at each other for decades. Fascist state government vs antisemitic terrorist organisations.

        Israël is filled with people that left where they lived be cause of either anti semitism or the pull to the settler colonial project. An easy solution there is not.

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          Why do Palestinians have to leave for Jordan and Egypt and why are Jordan ang Egypt expected to take them? Israel could just let them live in their homes like any decent person would expect.

          Israël is filled with people that left where they lived be cause of either anti semitism or the pull to the settler colonial project.

          Anti-Semitism because of Israel’s actions. If you’re a state known for killing and displacing Arabs, you don’t expect Arab’s to be nice to you. Israel has dragged Jewish reputation through the mud through their actions.

          An easy solution there is not.

          There literally is. Stop killing and displacing Arabs. It’s not that hard.

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            They don’t have to leave perse… but they could use these borders to trade and travel… but these borders are also shut… for the good of the Palestinians or something…

            And yeah, leave them in the west bank and Gaza.

            Antisemitism because of Israel… some yeah, most “just because”… Bit silly to ascribe it all to that.

            And hating Jews because the israeli government you associate them with, is doing wrong shit, leads to more violence…maybe even Jews that take their stuff and move to Israel. These will not be the most open minded well adjusted people.

            And yes they should stop killing people. But how do we make the peace structural and not just a reprieve until the next flare up.

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              Their entire system of government is only allowed at the discretion of Israel, and we all know how Israel treats them. So they can’t leave, they can’t self govern, they can’t extract the resources of their own land. What on earth do you expect them to do?

              I never said the hatred was justified. But if Israel didn’t do what it has been doing for the past 70+ years then the Jewish reputation wouldn’t be as dogshit as it is now.

              How do you make peace? Stop killing people would be a good start don’t you think?

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                Yeah, I think Palestinians should have the self governance. 2 state solution should be done properly. I don’t think the neighboring countries will allow it, but we will see.

                But then many worry (including me) if the Palestinians end up putting the same type of people in charge that will preach revenge and hatred only to drag them into another war we will be back here again. It’s not as if that is unprecedented.

                Israël holds the power and they have the responsibility to be better to the Palestinians than they are and help them become a proper state and self govern.

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                  I would argue for a single state solution. A 2 state solution would just foster an us vs them mentality. All western countries have laws allowing anyone of any ethnicity or religion to hold elected positions in government and other public service roles. Why should this be any different?

                  Hamas was propped up by Israel to delegtimize the Palestinian people. If they don’t want the messages of revenge and radicalization to be so powerful then like Canada and the US did with the Natives, Israel needs to immediately begin reparations. It’s never going to happen given Israel’s current culture and leadership. But this violence won’t ever stop.