• fonix232@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    100% - but I meant the self defense part when they haven’t actually touched you, just gotten to the point where their actions can constitute harassment.

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          14 hours ago

          The point I’m trying to make is that people should be free of prosecution if they are being aggressively harassed, both physical and verbal. It used to be, you ran your mouth, you would get a punch in the face to knock some sense back into you. Immediate consequences for stupidity.

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            13 hours ago

            People who say “violence is never the answer” probably never got bullied or harassed themselves.

            They’ll moralize about “just tell on them!” But that doesn’t do anything, and the harassment only gets worse after that.

            Throughout my life, I’ve consistently gotten in more trouble for sticking up for myself than I’ve ever seen my bullies or harassers get in. It’s like the system wants us all to be pushovers and peons, not deserving even the ground beneath our feet. Or maybe I’ve just been tagged from birth as a “peasant” and therefore never been allowed to have a spine.

            But honestly, you can see how much damage this is doing to society. “Violence is never the answer” means we have to tolerate intolerance. It gives free license to bigotry, and forces us to appease.

            Violence was certainly the answer back in WWII. Nobody was gonna stop the Nazis simply by asking nicely.

            But for decades now, people haven’t even been allowed to fight their bullies. And it shows…

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            13 hours ago

            Oh I agree. I’m just pointing out that currently, courts require physicality to happen for an overwhelming majority of physical self defense responses.