Well, most European leaders were pretty happy to support the Palestinian genocide (under Biden), the illegal kidnapping of a countries leader in Venezuela, and even were on board with Iran in the stages of the initial invasion. I know narratives change quickly but have we forgotten about all the “they killed 40k protesters” bull shit already? I swear people have the memory of a goldfish.
European (and most of the world’s) leaders and media were justifying the invasion not long ago. They just did the “well, this should have been approved…” hand waving to give them a chance to fall back later if it went badly.
Well, it went badly. They aren’t tired of his shit. They just pivot when his shit hits the fan. I don’t see any of them calling for a release of the president of Venezuela or a coalition of the willing to put an end to the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel/America continues to enact.
If the price of oil wasn’t going through the roof no one would care. It’s why no one even mentions what America/Israel are doing to Lebanon right now.
Fuck America and its war. But if you truly believe the iranian regime didn’t mass murder a lot of its citizens during the protests, you are either naive or blindly loyal towards anyone that is against the US.
If you believe it was 40k people and that it’s at all relevant to the US invading than you’re the one that’s naive. If the US cared about people dying unjustifiably in other countries it would invade Israel and defund its own military afterwards.
It’s funny that right after this comment was made Trump literally just “leaked” that they had armed militia groups in Iran during the protest. Like, our government literally admitting to placing armed agitators into the protest.
Iran is its own sovereign state. It is up to the people of that state to be critical of their own government and have their own progress of civil rights movements. I am not Iranian. I don’t live in Iran. It is my job as an American to critize the actions of my government.
A government that has placed nearly 50 years of sanctions on a state that dared to overthrow Americas puppet dictator. A government that helps to provoke violence so they can install another puppet for American oil interest. A government that is literally bombing civilians, water plants, and infrastructure to force it’s will on another country.
If 10k people died or 10m people died it wouldn’t change these facts. The actions of the US government are entirely unrelated to what crimes the Iranian government commits. They are ONLY used to justify their own worse crimes on the people of Iran.
Talking about it, as an American or western citizen, is just giving legitimacy to the crimes of our own country. It’s the same as “Hamas kills gay people” used to legitimize the steps of genocide.
If you fall for these lies of the US caring about human rights it is just allowing the next step to be taken. Because they will always have some lie or reason to take that further step.
It is up to Iran and the Iranian people to bring justice to their own state. They will never be able to do that when someone like you in the west keeps falling for “There leaders are bad, so we must bomb ALL OF THEM”
And even if you don’t agree with the second part. Repeating the first part over and over only gives legitimacy to the idea that “we have to do something”. We don’t. We aren’t some moral actors. We (the USA) are selfish Imperialist that will only ever take actions in foreign countries to benefit ourselves.
So, it’s just “bull shit” to even talk about it. The US will never take actions that are for the good of an already oppressed people. So when the US starts talking about how “oppressed” some other nations people are - your “bull shit” meter should be buzzing really fucking loud.
Well, most European leaders were pretty happy to support the Palestinian genocide (under Biden), the illegal kidnapping of a countries leader in Venezuela, and even were on board with Iran in the stages of the initial invasion. I know narratives change quickly but have we forgotten about all the “they killed 40k protesters” bull shit already? I swear people have the memory of a goldfish.
European (and most of the world’s) leaders and media were justifying the invasion not long ago. They just did the “well, this should have been approved…” hand waving to give them a chance to fall back later if it went badly.
Well, it went badly. They aren’t tired of his shit. They just pivot when his shit hits the fan. I don’t see any of them calling for a release of the president of Venezuela or a coalition of the willing to put an end to the genocide and ethnic cleansing Israel/America continues to enact.
If the price of oil wasn’t going through the roof no one would care. It’s why no one even mentions what America/Israel are doing to Lebanon right now.
Fuck America and its war. But if you truly believe the iranian regime didn’t mass murder a lot of its citizens during the protests, you are either naive or blindly loyal towards anyone that is against the US.
If you believe it was 40k people and that it’s at all relevant to the US invading than you’re the one that’s naive. If the US cared about people dying unjustifiably in other countries it would invade Israel and defund its own military afterwards.
We know that it was a lot. Might be 20k, might be 40k might be 60k. Either way, calling it “bullshit” is just fucked up.
Where did I say it justifies the war?
It’s funny that right after this comment was made Trump literally just “leaked” that they had armed militia groups in Iran during the protest. Like, our government literally admitting to placing armed agitators into the protest.
Iran is its own sovereign state. It is up to the people of that state to be critical of their own government and have their own progress of civil rights movements. I am not Iranian. I don’t live in Iran. It is my job as an American to critize the actions of my government.
A government that has placed nearly 50 years of sanctions on a state that dared to overthrow Americas puppet dictator. A government that helps to provoke violence so they can install another puppet for American oil interest. A government that is literally bombing civilians, water plants, and infrastructure to force it’s will on another country.
If 10k people died or 10m people died it wouldn’t change these facts. The actions of the US government are entirely unrelated to what crimes the Iranian government commits. They are ONLY used to justify their own worse crimes on the people of Iran.
Talking about it, as an American or western citizen, is just giving legitimacy to the crimes of our own country. It’s the same as “Hamas kills gay people” used to legitimize the steps of genocide.
If you fall for these lies of the US caring about human rights it is just allowing the next step to be taken. Because they will always have some lie or reason to take that further step.
It is up to Iran and the Iranian people to bring justice to their own state. They will never be able to do that when someone like you in the west keeps falling for “There leaders are bad, so we must bomb ALL OF THEM”
And even if you don’t agree with the second part. Repeating the first part over and over only gives legitimacy to the idea that “we have to do something”. We don’t. We aren’t some moral actors. We (the USA) are selfish Imperialist that will only ever take actions in foreign countries to benefit ourselves.
So, it’s just “bull shit” to even talk about it. The US will never take actions that are for the good of an already oppressed people. So when the US starts talking about how “oppressed” some other nations people are - your “bull shit” meter should be buzzing really fucking loud.