• leoj@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    Iran has shown that the United States needs NATO, and NATO needs the United States, more than ever. If Iranian Shaheeds and their manpeds / S300s are hitting US fighters and sneaking past defenses, who knows what more advanced or just sheer high scale weaponry could do, air superiority does not feel guaranteed.

    A near peer (Russia) conflict would be ugly on a scale not seen since WWI, a true peer (China) conflict would unleash horrors we cannot imagine. We will all need each other, as NATO is a significant deterrent factor, which could actually save the lives of millions through deterrence, or shift the balance of warfare through increase manufacturing and safe zone output.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      2 hours ago

      Keep in mind that the US are the only NATO member that refused Ukraine’s offers of assistance, training and intelligence sharing on anti-drone warfare. The rest of us have been actively wargaming how to deal with these kinds of threats for quite some time. The US is not a litmus test for the cutting edge of NATO anymore.