Trump re-upped his disdain for European allies that have refused to take part in the U.S. and Israel's military operation against Iran.

President Donald Trump has warned the U.K. and France that the “U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore,” as he vented his frustration over the close allies’ refusal to join military action against Iran.

  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    18 hours ago

    They never were. We were there for them though. There’s only one NATO country who used NATO article 5 “an attack against one is an attack against all”: the US after 9/11. And the rest came to their aid.

    • pet the cat, walk the dog@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      8 hours ago

      Really? Let’s check that:

      The decision to invoke NATO’s collective self-defense provisions was undertaken at NATO’s own initiative, without a request by the United States, and occurred despite the hesitation of Germany, Belgium, Norway, and the Netherlands.

      Two small military operations were ultimately authorized under the terms of the resolutions: Operation Eagle Assist, consisting of the deployment of several aircraft to North America; and, Operation Active Endeavour, a mostly symbolic naval deployment in the Mediterranean Sea. The United States, which was skeptical of NATO capabilities, elected not to seek further Article 5 support and the alliance did not participate in the ensuing American invasion of Afghanistan, though some individual members did make contributions outside of the NATO command structure.

      • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        6·
        2 hours ago

        You check it with a Wikipedia source. Not the most trustworthy of sources.

        Here’s another source.

        Article 5 has been officially used only one time in history. This occurred after the terrorist attacks against the United States on September 11, 2001.1 On September 12, 2001, the North Atlantic Council (NAC), which is the political leadership of NATO, agreed that if the attack was found to be directed from abroad, it would be treated as an action covered by Article 5.3

        The alliance formally confirmed that Article 5 applied on October 2, 2001. This happened after the United States presented evidence showing that the attacks were carried out by the al-Qaeda terrorist group and directed from outside the country.4 In response, NATO began its first-ever military mission in direct support of the United States. This was called Operation Eagle Assist, and it involved sending NATO planes to patrol and protect the skies over the U.S.5

        Another measure was Operation Active Endeavour, which was a naval mission in the Mediterranean Sea. This operation was designed to help detect and stop terrorist activities by monitoring shipping lanes. These actions showed how the alliance could use its military assets for collective defense even when the threat came from outside of Europe.

        The fact remains article 5 was used after the terrorist attack on the US and NATO members responded. It has been the only time article 5 was used, and it was in response to an attack on the USA. Just like NATO article 5 states, the US it’s allies came to help. Not just a tiny operation, but years and years of deployment in Afghanistan. I myself took part in operation Active Endeavour for which I earned 2 medals.

        So Trump his argument that NATO won’t help the US while the US always helped NATO, is bullshit.

        Most NATO countries even helped when the US attacked Iraq without proper cause. There are also NATO countries helping the US in counter drugs operations around the Carribean, even outside jurisdictional zones of overseas territories.

        The US has always been a war monger, with economy thriving around that. Since the second World War the US has been the agressor, the bully, not the protector it claims to be.