President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said that President Trump “still chooses a strategy of putting more pressure on the Ukrainian side.”

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    23 hours ago

    What did I say that’s not true? All you did was replace the word “said” with “assurances”. Nowhere did I use the term guarantee.

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        22 hours ago

        How does that semantical nitpick detract from my point about Ukraine knowing that they can’t rely on the USA?

        Some reddit ass shit.

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          22 hours ago

          Why would the US insist on using the unusual word? Because it allows them to keep their word. There are other reasons for not trusting their word but not this contract.

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        19 hours ago

        They didn’t even say that. Unless there’s a different agreement, but the Budapest Memorandum never mentions anything about security guarantees or protection.

        Doesn’t change the fact that Trump is a traitorous piece of shit, that the US is an unreliable ally or that helping Ukraine is the right thing to do for many reasons but let’s at least ground things in reality. Unless there’s another agreement I’m not aware of, I’m no history expert but I know I was surprised when I actually read the text of the agreement because I hear this talking point a lot.