Kim Ju Ae: North Korea leader Kim Jong Un chooses daughter as heir, Seoul says
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South Korea's spy agency says Ki Ju Ae's prominent public presence indicates she is the chosen heir.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has selected his daughter as his heir, South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Thursday.

Kim Ju Ae - who is believed to be 13 - has in recent months been pictured beside her father in high-profile events like a visit to Beijing in September, her first known trip abroad.

The National Intelligence Service (NIS) said it took a “range of circumstances” into account including her increasingly prominent public presence at official events" in making this assessment.

  • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
    16·
    2 days ago

    Constitutional Monarchy are very different and limited form of monarchy, where the monarch have very limited power or are simply there for ceremonial purpose. The king doesn’t command the parliament, and cannot make policy, and at most can suggest it.

    I live in a country with constitutional monarchy and they mostly just there, occasionally making remark and have their opinions. They however still have the power to veto bill and reject project, but it happen very very rarely. They’re mostly there as religious leader and political weapon for some.

    So to answer your question, yes, Netherlands and Denmark both practice constitutional monarchy, hence they’re still considered democracy.

    • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Ok, now, can you conceive that the Kim family’s role is more representative as in a constitutional monarchy (such as that of my homeland of Spain) than it is de-facto monarchical power? I’m not saying that the DPRK’s parliament is democratically elected, I’m questioning whether we can, with the information at our disposal in the west, affirm that the politics of the DPRK are controlled by one particular family and not by, say, the cadres of their communist party.

      • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
        13·
        2 days ago

        Firstly, to say that Kim family is merely ceremonial mean you have to proof that someone else is running the show, that hatched all the plans, that have the final say. We don’t have that information. What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea, that rule and guide the country, that inherited the power from his father.

        Of course, a king need a general and a treasurer, whether they are the one in control or not is not a known fact, and that will remained a mystery until someone close to them speak.

        So yes, with the information the world have, we can safely say North Korea is run by a single family.

        • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          What we have is he is the single most powerful person in North Korea

          I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box

          that rule and guide the country

          This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?

          • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
            9·
            2 days ago

            I absolutely would not have described Queen Elizabeth as the most powerful person in the country at any time of her reign.

            • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
              2·
              20 hours ago

              The Queen/King is quite literally above the law in the UK. So yes.
              Influential? Yes. The current clown not so much.

              • njm1314@lemmy.worldEnglish
                9·
                1 day ago

                I’m going to invite you to go ahead and rephrase that in a way that is not completely nonsensical. Cuz I don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to say there or what it had to do with anything I said.

          • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
            9·
            2 days ago

            I don’t doubt this, but you could have said the same about Queen Elizabeth before she got in a box

            I can also say the same for all prime minister and president in country without monarch and with constitutional monarch. That is exactly what a leader of the country are. What is exactly your point here?

            This requires more evidence. What’s your evidence for this? What material reasons do you have to believe that the decisions come from Kim personally and not from the communist party?

            Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?

            • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              Let me do one better: what is your evidence that say otherwise?

              A society whose results don’t match those of a personal monarchic dictatorship. For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves. There’s no public healthcare, no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.

              In the DPRK, there’s widespread public transit infrastructure with trains and trams, public education for everyone, public healthcare, good workers’ rights relative to their level of development, people-centered urban planning, collectivized agriculture… You wouldn’t expect any of these things from an absolutist monarchy.

              • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
                4·
                1 day ago

                I would love to have source for your claim on north korea, because your claim on saudi arabia is all but nonsense, and is really easily dispelled with a little bit of internet search.

                And across the history, some king are known to have build a lot of public infrastructure, while others don’t. That isn’t a sign of governance type, that is the sign of the competence of the leadership.

                • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  About Saudi Arabia:

                  The kafala system or kefala system (Arabic: نظام الكفالة niẓām al-kafāla, lit. ‘sponsorship system’) is a system in the Middle East that involves binding the residency and employment status of a migrant worker to a specific employer throughout the period of their residence in a country. Under this arrangement, the employer holds substantial authority over the worker, including the ability to approve or deny job changes, and permission to leave the country. This dependency creates a significant power imbalance that heightens the risk of exploitation and abusive practices.

                  Demographics in Saudi Arabia:

                  However, 38.3% of the residents (or about 13.3 million people) are non-citizens,[8] and many of them are migrant workers.

                  When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights, idk what you’re claiming false about my arguments

                  Regarding sources for North Korea, the YouTube channel “DPRK Explained” does a great job of showing the realities of North Korea. You should have a look if you’re interested.

                  • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
                    2·
                    22 hours ago

                    You:

                    For example, Saudi Arabia, a widely known example of a monarchy with absolutist power, has 80% of the population composed of immigrants without rights who get stripped of their passports and get treated as slaves.

                    Also you:

                    When 40%ish of the population is without basic human rights

                    Wanna try again?

                    Then you:

                    There’s no public healthcare

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Saudi_Arabia

                    Health care in Saudi Arabia is a national health care system in which the government provides free universal healthcare coverage through a number of government agencies.

                    Then you also:

                    no infrastructure for poor people (trains, public schools, people-centered urbanism…), etc.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Saudi_Arabia

                    Public education in Saudi Arabia—from primary education through college—is open to every Saudi citizen. Education is the second-largest sector of government spending in Saudi Arabia.[7] Saudi Arabia spends 8.8% of its gross domestic product on education, which is nearly double the global average of 4.6%.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Mashaaer_Al_Mugaddassah_Metro_line

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_Metro

                    There are several other line being planned.

                  • lad@programming.devEnglish
                    1·
                    23 hours ago

                    I thought it was 80% migrants? Also, except for the bit about permission to leave country (crazy, imo) that sounds like a normal work permit in many conventionally democratic countries, where employer also uses it’s power over migrant workers. It might be worse in practice, of course, that depends on courts

      • supernight52@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        Yes, we can definitively prove that the NK political theater is run by the Kim family. Watch any video of their “congress” meeting, and it’s just a group of NPCs clapping mindlessly to everything Kim Jong il says.

            • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              Your entire knowledge of the DPRK comes from western propaganda, I’m not the obtuse one here. Tell me how many times you’ve gone “actually, let’s see” and tried to read something about the country? You’re analyzing the political structure of a country based on 3 news shots from western sources.

              • supernight52@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                2 days ago

                Ah yes, South Korean interviews of North Koreans that have managed to flee the country- classic western propaganda. Fellate yourself less, maybe?

                • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
                  2·
                  1 day ago

                  Ah yes, South Korean interviews of North Koreans that have managed to flee the country- classic western propaganda

                  Unironically yes. Russia literally does this with the right wing US émigrées that move to Russia because gay rights are shit there and “they have no woke”, these people literally get paid to do such propaganda.