Russia opposes Taiwan’s independence in any form and considers the island an inseparable part of China, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in remarks published on Sunday.
In an interview with Russia’s TASS state news agency, Lavrov also urged Japan to “think carefully” about what he described as a course towards militarisation".
Yup, theres that same tortured reasoning that the fully independent nation of Taiwan is owned by China after 80 years of independence and seperate governance, but this time with extra handwaving away of China’s explict comments about attacking Taiwan and forceably removing their sovernity.
Keep rehashing Chinese propaganda as much as you like mate. It doesnt change the actual world.
You can keep asserting that Taiwan is a fully independent nation but that doesn’t make it so. There are mechanisms by which nations are defined. Taiwan has participated in none of these mechanisms. Also, your definition of “Independent” is entirely specious as the island was demonstrably a protectorate of the US and UK which executed a naval blockade (an act of war) to protect the ultra minority fascist military that lost the civil war. As a protectorate, it is difficult to state that Taiwan is clearly an independent nation state.
Please source Chinese explicit statements about attacking Taiwan. I assure you that any statement you source can be shown to only explicitly be in reference to the national security implications of foreign weapon systems, capabilities, and troops being stationed on the island. China has held the line on peaceful reunification since the 1950s.
Ahh, a continued case book in propaganda.
Only refencing a democracy like Taiwan by its autocratic past to minimize China’s current brutal authoritarian goverment, arbitrary and undefined “Taiwan cant be nation because I said so” statements, and continued wild handwaving away all the statments about “forced reuninfication” from PRC party members and endless military drills, war games and international provications when Taiwan arms itself to assure its own autonomy from a brutal aggressor. No shit China doesnt want Taiwan to be able to defend itself and is threatening anyone who assists them. It has made it very clear they intend to attack the nation as soon as international politics allow it.
Nothing you’ve said changes the fact that Taiwan has been an independent state for 80 years, and a democracy for 30. The fact that other democracies stand by its right to self determination is only a threat to China because it is a totalitarian regime that wants to plunder Taiwans resources for itself.
I don’t need to defend against two dronies spouting the same bullshit. I have responded to all your points in the comment thread with my original interlocutor. You can read along there since you clearly have no original thoughts of your own to add.
Hate to break it to you but there literally are none. The concept of legal statehood is a fantasy; your existence is determined by what land you hold and who agrees to work with you on the international stage.
Taiwan in 2025 fits basically any state definitions (geographic location, population, government, election sovereignty, etc…), but the only thing holding them back from ratifying their current independence and gaining formal international recognition is the 1.43 billion lb gorilla across the strait. By the PRCs own stance, a declaration of independence would provoke an invasion and cut diplomatic relations with any country that supports Taiwan independence. This is how you get phrasing like the USA acknowledging (not recognizing) the PRCs claims and not supporting Taiwan independence (vs opposing).
Only 51 countries outright endorse the PRCs claims with the rest staying far away from an official position, so it’s not difficult at all to see Taiwan’s de facto independence. But the PRC has a knife to their throat preventing that from being formal, which is great for internet propoganda warriors like yourself.
Lmao PRC has nearly been guns hot with their saber rattling brinkmanship multiple times. If they stopped doing that for a few decades then maybe they’d get more support for a “peaceful reunification”, but it’s far more likely that Taiwan would want to remain independent.
They’re a fucking nuclear power, that alone is such an obvious deterrent that any Taiwan threat is negligible from a national defense standpoint. We’ve lived in a world with ICBMs since 1957 for fucks sake. It doesn’t matter if a rival superpower decides to attack you from 50 miles or 5000 miles, it’s not going to end well (for anyone most likely)…
But the war games and rockets and patrols serve a much more important purpose than national defense: keep Taiwan hostile and use that hostility to preserve your casus belli. The moment that the USA (or whatever superpower) decides to withdraw their support you can hop right over and clean house. A peaceful annexation is much more risky and politically messy [see Hong Kong].
Spouting “peaceful reunification” is such a laughable farce when their posture is so obviously counter productive.
Yes, statehood is a legal fiction. It’s still a historically developed social construct, with historically evidence mechanism for it. Contracts are fantasies too.
Taiwan does not fit the definition of a state because it has not triggered any of these mechanism. It fits the definition of an imperial vassal based on its history.
As for the PLA having a weapons-ready posture, again, the vassalage of Taiwan was done by imperial gunships. Of course there’s a military posture, it was forced upon them by a literal invading military in the middle of a civil war.
As for national security implications, y’all love to think nuclear war is limited to just the launching missiles ignoring the US’s constant project to undermine MAD and win a nuclear war. There are two primary components to this, both of which drive the US’s encirclement of its opponents. The first is highly variable flight paths with short travel distances. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of missile defense and greatly increases the chances of a total decapitation attack before full scale MAD can be engaged. The second is missile defense. By encircling opponents with missile defense, the US hopes to prevent the large majority of retaliatory launches.
Yes, the US installing its military on the island of Taiwan is a national security threat while simultaneously undermining the claim that Taiwan is an independent nation state instead of an imperial vassal and unsinkable aircraft carrier.
Again, you keep claiming to know that the heart of the CPC is evil and duplicitous while simultaneously supporting every single statement about Taiwan that the US makes. Meanwhile, the US has been the most duplicitous actor in the world stage for a century, they have lied to go to war more times than you can remember, they are actively engaging in double speak daily while they commit war crimes, and you expect me to believe that the things they say, which are the same things you say, are true?
Please. I wasn’t born yesterday. The US lied to invade Iraq. It is lying while killing Venezuelans. It lied to destroy Libya. It lied to invade Vietnam. It lied to bomb Iran. It lied to kill Soleimani. It lies to commit genocide. It lies to bomb Nigeria. It’s all lies.
Meanwhile, China has not dropped a single bomb in 35 years. The people of China consider the people of Taiwan to be as Chinese as a Floridian considers a Montanan to be American. Invading Taiwan serves no strategic purpose outside of a material threat from the US, and it actively harms Chinese strategic interests.
Spoken like a mask off fascist. When has invading one’s neighbor even been easy business? When has it ever been clean? The only people who believe this are cartoon villains and the fascist Western leadership who models themselves after said villains.
No, the Hong Kong transition is going quite smoothly. The protests came and went, the police were restrained in their response to being literally fire bombed by students egged on by the Brits and the Yanks. Sure, there are difficulties, but that’s literally what China has said they would be doing since fucking Deng took office. One country, two systems. It literally has its roots in the Qing Dynasty!! It’s a historical process and governance strategy that China has been pursuing for fucking four hundred years.
There is ZERO evidence for your claim that na invasion is cleaner, that it’s faster, or that it even achieves the CPC’s goals. All the evidence points to a country that is recovering from being dismembered by the most brutal genociders in history (the North Atlantic empire system) and doing everything it can to avoid being checkmated by a psychopathic society that regular writes op eds about winning nuclear war.
Go find articles from China about how invasion would be faster and cleaner. Go find articles from China that they don’t care who dies because they’re traitors anyway. Go find articles from China saying that they must expand their empire in all directions and win a nuclear war to claim their place as global hegemon. You can’t because they don’t write them. That’s all Eurofascism speaking. You are so convinced that there are people as evil or even more evil than your society out there and you have taken to simply disbelieving all evidence to the contrary.
You are fully bought in. You are ride or die white supremacist empire. You are ready to nuke China if that’s what the US leaders say is the only solution to the Yellow Peril. You are fully cooked.