Donald Trump is again criticizing the Biden administration’s financial support for Ukraine in its war against Russia.
  • Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.worldEnglish
    152·
    2 months ago

    As somebody told me the other day, they beat Hitler, they beat Napoleon.

    In case any of you lurking Trump voters here need another example to ignore of how this person has no business in government and is too ignorant to be president. You are complicit in an impending tragedy to your history and the world.

    This guy says he is the one who can stop World War III and people believe it. Embarrassing and terrifying, weird just doesn’t cut it.

      • Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.worldEnglish
        38·
        2 months ago

        Many of them believe they need to help fulfill biblical prophesy in order to hasten the last battle of armageddon so that they may rule the world as kings for christ. Many of whom work in government and military groups.

        • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
          14·
          2 months ago

          Many of whom work in government and military groups.

          Pence is one of them. Christian dominionists… Fucking nutjobs.

          Imagine worshipping a god but also trying some “Jesus hates this one neat trick to make him arrive early!” bullshit…

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        They think they want WW3 (or civil war 2). Gonna be a massive wakeup call if they actually find out what that really means. It ain’t gonna be like the movies.

    • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      30·
      2 months ago

      LoL, yeah.

      And they beat the Nazis with a looooot of help from the US, pooring equipment into the Soviet Union, and then drafted the hell out of their country and sacrificed millions.

      The Napoleonic war was when soldiers muzzle loaded their guns and prrimarily armies travelled by foot or rode horses. And kept warm in the winter by normally not going out to fight wars.

      • coyootje@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        2 months ago

        They also very much had the advantage of knowing their terrain and both Hitler and Napoleon got cocky and kept going during winter time without being prepared for it. Hitler especially was actually making good progress until winter hit so you could almost even say that Russia took a calculated risk (even though I think it’s more of a “got lucky” situation).

        • Skua@kbin.earth
          11·
          2 months ago

          Not to mention the disingenuousness of leaving out how they lost to Hindenburg and Ludendorff in between those two

      • seejur@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Reminder that when it was Napoleon “defending” (battles vs the coalitions), he absolutely handled Emperor Alexander (Russia) ass in the field. See Austerlitz

        • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
          15·
          2 months ago

          Yeah people seem to think nuclear powers cannot lose wars. Afghanistan, Vietnam and several other countries would like to chime in.

          Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it’s a lot harder than people think. And now with the recent sarmat test, war on Russian soil, the broad attacks on Russian infrastructure, gigantic losses and Russia relying on north Korea for production of artillery shells… Russia looks weaker than ever.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
            7·
            2 months ago

            Look nuclear escalation is a theoretical option, bit in practice it’s a lot harder than people think.

            For two reasons in this case.

            1. Russia knows that the wind can blow radioactive ash across their border.

            2. Putin has grandchildren and dictators want legacies.

            • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              The other people in Putin’s administration also have their own families and interests and wouldn’t want that put at risk by nuclear annihilation. Even if Putin himself tried to give the go-ahead, I doubt those in charge of the nukes would want to effectively commit suicide over Putin’s stupid invasion by firing them.

    • Syntha@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      As if this is what was needed to prove it. Trump once answered a question about the failings of western liberalism by talking about how liberal cities on the west coast were doing badly.

    • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      The only person who can stop WW3 and also “save the country”, which according to him is a smoking husk.

    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      His base doesnt give a shit about world war 3, they just want america to fuck off front the rest of the world.

      I don’t believe trump would follow through on that, but thats what he’s promising.

    • where_am_i@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Hi, yes, it’s me here, I vote for trump.

      Not really, I’m a troll, and otherwise there are fukin zero trump voters here. You also ban anyone even trying to say anything pro trump.

      So save yourself your keyboard war. You’re like a kid fighting with tall grass. Also, get the f out of the world news sub.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    124·
    2 months ago

    I’m sure none of you need me to tell you this, but I feel the need to say it anyway- Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.

    It’s really fucking different when you are being invaded. Than when you are the invader.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        28·
        2 months ago

        I wonder what his response would be if someone told him Poland never surrendered to Hitler either, moved it’s government and attacked back and took back their home. Thereby Polands record against Hitler would be 1-0. It also would indicate they survived the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland as well.

          • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
            15·
            2 months ago

            The Soviets were complete jackasses to their allies. For example, they refused to allow American bombers to launch raids on Japan from eastern Russia, forcing the Allies to do a brutal island-hopping campaign to get them within range.

            Then, when a few B-29s were too damaged to make the long flight back to the island and diverted to Russia, they confiscated the planes and imprisoned their crews until the end of the war.

            Then, after the war, they dismantled two of the planes so they could figure out how to build a good airplane and claimed it as their own and called it the Tu-4.

            Oh, and they also threw Andrei Tupolev into a gulag because he couldn’t meet Stalin’s insane demands.

    • Tja@programming.devEnglish
      28·
      2 months ago

      Napoleon and Hitler couldn’t but Emperor Meiji (1905), Kaiser Wilhelm (1917), President Piłsudski (1920) and the Mujahideen (1980s) managed just fine, just to mention the 20th century.

    • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.

      Every politician tripping on power dream is to accomplish what they could not. Watch out for the propaganda against other countries, especially when it comes from a government full of shit.

  • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    2 months ago

    • orange turd claims to want to pull US out of NATO, whose primary adversary is Russia

    • orange turd saying he’ll stop funding Ukraine’s defense against Russian invasion

    • Right-wing groups outright shown to be funded by Russia

    • orange turd has been known to be friendly with, and speak positively of, leaders of Russia, N Korea, and China… knowingly not to be friendly with NATO nations.

    If this doesn’t scream to you where his loyalties are and where this country is headed…

  • troed@fedia.io
    54·
    2 months ago

    Trump doesn’t know the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia.

    Because that’s what Putin wants his minions to believe.

    Ukraine were largely the force that defeated the Nazis on the east front in WWII - not Russia. Both were however part of the Soviet Union at the time.

    • Skua@kbin.earth
      31·
      2 months ago

      Ethnic Russians were the largest proportion of the killed in action by quite a margin, let’s not pretend that they weren’t doing their part. Ukraine was too, of course - the people that pretend Ukraine just jumped ship and shacked up with the Nazis at the first opportunity are doing an unbelievable disservice to the millions of Ukrainians that died fighting the Nazis - but the huge population disparity between Russia and every other Soviet republic does show in the data.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      2 months ago

      Nah, Ukrainians served in disproportionately large numbers considering most of Ukraine was occupied by the Nazis, but ethnic Russians contributed roughly equivalent to their proportion of the Soviet Union.

  • Ghyste@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    32·
    2 months ago

    Fuck this worthless fucking piece of shit.

    Apologies ahead of time for the coarse opinion, but this shitbag has no remote concept of the preciousness of any life aside of his own.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      2 months ago

      Meh, doubt that. Russian incompetence has lead to far inferior efficiency of troops and tools of war. Any advantage they once held is gone.

      • Car@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Quantity is a quality of its own. I’d say Ukraine is hanging on with advanced weaponry. It needs the mass to push Russian troop advances and repel their forces out of their country.

        Anything else is keeping the status quo of roughly even wins and losses, which will never lead to victory in the next decade.

        • finitebanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          2 months ago

          I believe that in the entirety of 2023 Russia claimed another 518 km despite heavy military losses? Yeah, doesn’t look good for Russia.

          • Car@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            Russia claimed and held territory. Their military leadership doesn’t particularly value human lives in this conflict and hasn’t historically either. I have no doubt that they will continue the course suffering heavy human losses and eventually find some form of victory.

            Ukraine needs more people if they want any hope of staving that eventuality off. The Russians have very different ideas of fighting a war of attrition.

    • WhatYouNeed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      Ukraine needs ammo, not troops.

      Human wave attacks (favoured by the Russians) are effective against opponents who have to ration their ammo, like arty rounds, due to scarcity.

      If the defender has sufficient anno reserves, human wave attacks become very, very ineffective.