The development comes after a presentation to the International Olympic Committee by its medical chief, which highlighted the potential physical advantages of competing in women's sport after being born male.

The development comes after a presentation to the International Olympic Committee by its medical chief, which highlighted the potential physical advantages of competing in women’s sport after being born male.

  • FreshParsnip@lemmy.caEnglish
    70·
    2 days ago

    Watch them ban transgender women and clowns like JK Rowling STILL accuse cis women in the Olympics of being trans

              • powerstruggle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                2·
                17 hours ago

                It’s easy to dismiss that as a “random-ass blog” because you’re engaging in motivated reasoning, but it’s certainly not the only evidence:

                https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/20/imane-khelif-medical-records/

                Again, you have nothing. It’s fun to argue and all, but I’ll remind anyone reading this that until evidence of Khelif being female is presented, any other response is sophistry meant to distract you.

                • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  10·
                  16 hours ago

                  Did you even read your own link?

                  The screenshots shown in Ait Aoudia’s reporting are unverified. Snopes reached out to the doctors and hospitals associated with the alleged reports. They either did not respond or would not, as a matter of policy, confirm their authenticity or if Khelif was ever a patient of theirs. Ait Aoudia did not provide Snopes with any details of his source(s).

                  Even if the reports published by Ait Aoudia are authentic, however, the alleged findings have been misrepresented. If true, they would not conclusively prove that Khelif “is a man.” Instead, as Snopes explains here, they would highlight the reality that, from a scientific standpoint, gender is not actually as binary as some suggest it to be.

                  So yeah, go fuck yourself with a cactus.

                  In case this asshat deletes her comment, this was the link given as ‘evidence’

                  https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/20/imane-khelif-medical-records/

                  • powerstruggle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    2·
                    16 hours ago

                    Why would I delete my comment? I’m well aware of what the link says. Khelif is biologically male and even in the sympathetic article I linked they don’t dispute that.

                    Gender isn’t binary, but sex is. Snopes is trying to confuse you by conflating sex and gender, but nobody’s arguing about what gender Khelif is.

                • BremboTheFourth@piefed.caEnglish
                  8·
                  16 hours ago

                  you don’t have evidence! your shady blogs and discredited idiots are more like negative evidence! i mean, babygirl, did you read that snopes article? cuz i promise it doesn’t support what youre saying

                  key excerpts you must have missed, surely by accident:

                  The screenshots shown in Ait Aoudia’s reporting are unverified. Snopes reached out to the doctors and hospitals associated with the alleged reports. They either did not respond or would not, as a matter of policy, confirm their authenticity or if Khelif was ever a patient of theirs. Ait Aoudia did not provide Snopes with any details of his source

                  and

                  Even if the reports published by Ait Aoudia are authentic, however, the alleged findings have been misrepresented

                  those are almost at the top of the article!

                  so first i think you should ask someone to read this to you, then ask them to also read the rest of the snopes article, where it talks about the sex spectrum and intersexuality. none of which is in the article because it applies to khelif, but only to the nonsense brainless idiots spout. if you actually read the article you linked, you might realize that if someone was born with the corresponding genitalia, they might just be that sex, regardless of hormone levels or whatever genetic bullshit people wanna pretend applies to khelif so they can fantasize about azalia amineva still being undefeated.

                  i know youre a lost cause, but to anyone else who reads this thread, please remember: this is even dumber because even though none of it applies to khelif anyway, trans and intersex people are still fucking people and should be allowed to compete. not in their own league. theyre not undesireables. theyre not diseased. just let people play their games!

                  • powerstruggle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    2·
                    16 hours ago

                    I guess this is on me, for assuming you’d comprehend the article. I’ll explain it to you though!

                    Sex is not a spectrum. Sex is a binary defined by the size of gametes your body is organized around producing. Sex phenotypes and genotypes are a spectrum, and Snopes is hoping that you’re too ignorant to understand that, which regrettably you are. Which is OK! Everyone’s ignorant of lots of stuff, this is a great time to learn something. When Snopes says things like “In other words, there are several ways to define gender”, you can completely ignore that, because it’s irrelevant to participation in women’s sports. There is no evidence that Khelif is female, and this entire matter could be put to rest with a simple, non-invasive, cheap cheek swab that would prove to everyone that Khelif is in fact female. It is good that the IOC will implement sex testing and put this matter to rest so we can focus on more important things.

                    Gender is a spectrum though! It’s a reflection of how you live in your body and that’s great! Except in sports, it makes a difference if you’ve gone through male puberty. Khelif has gone through male puberty on account of being male, which is unfair to female competitors. Trans people should get to compete in sports! But trans women that have gone through male puberty and males with DSDs (aka intersex, which is a confusing term for this reason) should compete in open/men’s leagues because of innate biological advantage. The IOC is doing this because they followed the scientific evidence.

        • BremboTheFourth@piefed.caEnglish
          15·
          21 hours ago

          Lmao is that just some dude’s blog? Your accredited lab is bullshit, your blogger here literally spouts a bunch of hearsay and conjecture what about a clarification from the IOC implies, then has the gall to throw out the phrase “facts are facts.”

          Also I love this: “3 Wire Sports remains the only journalistic outlet to have seen these 2022 and 2023 tests.” Holy shit lol.

          But yeah, sure thing, whatever you say sweetie