Unfaltering loyalty to the Chinese Communist Party
I’m actually gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume this is actually a grown idiot lol
They are on TikTok and not Lemmy
Extreme/insane positions on everything. Not just one or two insane positions, not just political extremism; when I say everything I mean EVERYTHING. No nuance allowed. And it has to be fully sincere, otherwise you are dealing with a Jreg.
There are milder versions of this, but I have rarely met a child that didn’t have a strongly held insane belief formed from their limited experiences. My favorite was a kid who told me that eating pasta supports fascism because it comes from Italy, so loving Italian products means you support Mussolini. Pizza is fine, though, because that’s American.
I’ll bite. What’s a Jreg?
jreg is a youtube who (ironically?) claims to be anti-centrist, meaning taking an extreme stance on everything, regardless of which extreme.
Uuuuuugh. I remember being so black and white, there wasn’t any middle ground on anything. It was exhausting.
I’m just glad I decided to go full moral relativism right away back then. It was a good way to speedrun maturity, although I did maintain some kooky beliefs into early adulthood such as
- “if you are not multilingual you can’t be a good person, and the more languages you speak the better of a person you are”
- “The Democratic party is a puppet of the Republican party, and in reality the U.S. is only pretending to be a two-party state”
- “The age of consent should be 25.”
- “Evil people can be good functioning members of society, so we shouldn’t discriminate against people who hold evil beliefs as long as they are nice to others.”
It was exhausting. Opposite reason from you, there was only middle ground, no black and white allowed. But it came from the same mental place. Pride, arrogance, nieveté.
Not understanding the difference between pre and post 9/11 politics
Hate to break it to you but people born in 2006 are turning 18 this year (and are technically considered “adults”).
Having just turned 43, I can tell you that I don’t think I became an adult until my early/mid 30s.
This is a truth that everyone under 30 denies until the day they turn 30. It’s like a magic spell is suddenly broken, and you realize you’re alone in an aging meat husk that now knows the glory of back pain.
I know a young person will read this and think this won’t happen to them. To that person: I am you from the future. Remember us as we were.
I know a young person will read this and think this won’t happen to them.
I rather thought “Huh, 30s is still young.”
I was alive for 9/11 and I don’t know the difference.
I don’t care for politics.
Not at least understanding the difference seems irresponsible.
Why? How does knowing how politics worked before I could vote, help me as a voter today?
I understand enough about politics to cast my vote and beyond the act of voting, I generally don’t follow politics. I vote based on party platforms (what they intend to do) and the likelihood of those things happening. Eg, if a party was to say that they’ll make everyone rich, I would consider that statement to be delusional, unrealistic and not something that could be fulfilled even if that party was voted in. This is an extreme example, but I think you get my meaning.
Beyond doing my due diligence in figuring out who I want to vote for, and then voting for that party… What else do I realistically need?
My district always elects the same party anyways, whether I vote for them or not. I’ve landed in a gerrymandered location and that party basically always wins, but I still vote regardless.
IMO, I shouldn’t need to take a political history course to be considered to be a responsible voter.
I don’t care for politics.
Your sphere of control should match your sphere of concern; and neither of those things are what you think they are.
You think politics are in my control in any way, shape, or form? They’ve gerrymandered my vote to irrelevance.
I still vote, I look at the platforms and vote for whomever I feel serves my interests the most, not that the party’s platform means jack or shit. They’re all just pandering to whatever they know you want to hear, and once they get into power, they do whatever the hell they want.
My district leans a particular way, and whether I vote with them, or against them, the same party is elected to govern. I’d say my vote is pretty useless in that context.
I was too young to vote, pre-9/11, and had even less interest in politics than I do now. I’ve vaguely followed along since I got registered to vote when I got old enough to do so, but it’s not like learning about what happened before I was registered to vote will help me in any way. I make the best choice based on the information that is available, and in the end, it doesn’t even matter.
When they’re adamant that voting third party in the United States will be useful in some capacity, I assume they’re 13
I don’t assume they are 13, but they at least aren’t old enough to remember what happened in 2016.
Or any other election year, for that matter. I don’t think a third party candidate has gotten a significant voter block in 100 years.
Very confidently wrong, poor reading comprehension, poor grammar, limited vocabulary, emoji gore, catch phrase/pop culture quotes/talking points repeated with no comprehension of what they’re saying, clearly not aware of how many things in life work, religious regurgitation while being surprised everyone doesn’t agree with them. Very easily impressed with basic factual statements, clearly thinking confidence is the main thing that makes someone correct. Thinks their mom telling they they are handsome is a valid point. Idk, that’s all I got.
Huh
Hexbear is an 8/10 on this scale
When they think communism is a great idea
It can’t be fully implemented properly because power corrupts.
Why would “power corrupts” mean Communism can’t be fully implemented? What on Earth are you talking about, specifically?
I’m not the original commenter but I agree with them and I see it like this: Under communism, you need people in power to make sure everything is “fair”, but human nature will lead many of these people to selfishly abuse their position.
You need organization, yes. What is “fair?” Why can’t there be democratic processes keeping these people in check? What does “human nature” have to do with this, does the local post office go rogue?
I understand that the basis of Capitalism is that it isn’t fair in any way, shape, or form, but why does that mean it’s better?
I’m the wrong person to ask these questions, I’m a socialist. I despise what capitalism has caused.
You are the perfect person to ask, because you claimed Communism cannot work because “power corrupts” and “human nature.” I am not saying you are a Capitalist. Your ideas regarding Marxism are immaterial and vibes-based, which is why I am trying to get you to take a Materialist stance.
Why does power corrupt? How can representatives be held accountable? What determines “human nature?”
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Power itself does not corrupt. People generally act in their material interests, and in Capitalism, this is dominated by the profit motive, like all class society. The bourgeoisie are focused on making profit, no more and no less. The Capitalist State is molded by the class in power, ie the bourgeoisie, and thus serves the interests of Capital. In an alternative, collectivized system, these same dynamics would be abolished, with a different set of challenges taking their place, such as the question of allocating labor.
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Representatives can be held accountable via democratic measures, ie a representative democracy. Worker councils and parliaments can handle coordination and check against corruption.
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Human Nature is determined by material conditions. Humans are thought to be competitive naturally because Capitalism is competitive, even though the average worker does not care, only the bourgeoisie do. In different Modes of Production, “Human Nature” appeared very different. In primitive Communism, for example, Human Nature was cooperative and communal, class society arose from technological advancements like the agricultural revolution.
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They’re getting private messaged by YouTubers
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