Israel’s Knesset passed a resolution rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian state on Thursday.
The bill, co-sponsored by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition along with right-wing parties in the opposition, was passed by an overwhelming majority of 68 votes, with only nine MKs voting against it.
Benny Gantz, seen by many leaders in the West as a more moderate figure than Netanyahu, voted in favour of the bill, along with his party.
China: land grab by claiming the sea and Taiwan is theirs = bad guy
Russia: land grab by invade Ukraine claiming Ukraine is theirs = bad guy
Israel: land grab by invade West Bank and Gaza, saying Palestine shouldn’t exists and claiming both land is theirs
Guys, i might risk getting called antisemite but…i think Israel is the bad guy here?
Russia isn’t claiming Ukraine is theirs.
That’s why, before invading, they formally recognized the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk from Ukraine.
And Zaporizhzhia and Kherson?
They were annexed by Russia from Ukraine (a country that Russia does not claim).
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Is a Tankie someone who believes facts?
There are many facts that tankies usually believe, and importantly many of those typically believed by them are known to be false.
I believe you’re never going to own a house.
Am I wrong about that?
They have since passed a bill annexing those areas, plus more, and even in the official “justification” for the war Russia clearly expects to be able to decide Ukraine’s foreign policy
And none of that means Russia is claiming Ukraine.
In fact, by recognizing Luhansk and Donetsk as independent countries, they were explicitly saying that Luhansk and Donetsk were not part of Russia.
It’s not the same situation as Taiwan or Palestine, where China and Israel respectively claim that those territories are theirs and include them on official maps.
Edit: Look at official maps of Russia from Russia. The annexed territories are shown as part of Russia, but the rest of Ukraine isn’t.
Edit 2: You guys, this isn’t a matter of opinion. You’re just misunderstanding the situation. “Territory X belongs to country Y” can depend on who you ask, but “Country Y claims territory X” is a simple fact that is either true or not.
They were boiling the frog by recognizing LPR and DPR prior to annexation, don’t be thick. You can read Putin’s speeches where he clearly states he believes that Ukraine is part of “Russkiy Mir”, not a real country.
don’t be thick
Where am I being thick? What do you think I’m not understanding?
I don’t understand your objection to anything I’m saying.
Israel and China have somewhat understandable claims over West Bank/Gaza and Taiwan, which is why those are complicated situations. Russia makes no such claim over Ukraine.
just give up and go back to hexbear or grad.
I don’t know what those are.
In fact, by recognizing Luhansk and Donetsk as independent countries, they were explicitly saying that Luhansk and Donetsk were not part of Russia.
They passed actual law saying otherwise almost two years ago. You are just making this up.
It’s not the same situation as Taiwan or Palestine, where China and Israel respectively claim that those territories are theirs and include them on official maps.
What, because there’s some of Ukraine left afterwards on the condition that it only does what Russia wants it to do?
The initial claim was that it was a land grab, which it absolutely is.
“Territory X belongs to country Y” can depend on who you ask, but “Country Y claims territory X” is a simple fact that is either true or not.
It’s only a simple fact if you look at maps and literally nothing else. A vassal state is not really independent, is it?
You are just making this up.
I am not.
https://amp.dw.com/en/russia-recognizes-independence-of-ukraine-separatist-regions/a-60861963
What I’m saying you’re making up is the intention behind the recognition, not the fact that Russia recognised the breakaway regions. We have seen Russia’s actions since the recognitions: invasion and annexation. You don’t annex places that you legitimately respect the independence of. That’s a blatant contradiction.
I’m not making up anything. And I’m blocking you.
Not only is this article 2 years old, it predates the entire invasion. You cannot possibly think this fact matters in the slightest right now, in the context that Russia parked their army in that territory and said “lol this is actually our land now.”
Not only is this article 2 years old, it predates the entire invasion.
Yes, that’s what I said.
I said:
That’s why, before invading, they formally recognized the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk from Ukraine.
