Ukraine’s defence ministry has fired a top commander after photos emerged of a group of emaciated soldiers who have been left on the frontline for months without proper food and water.

The scandal erupted after the wife of one of the soldiers, Anastasiia Silchuk, posted the images on social media. The four men appeared to be pale and visibly malnourished, with prominent ribcages and thin arms.

The soldiers had spent eight months defending a shrinking bulge of territory on the left bank of the Oskil River, near the north-eastern Ukrainian city of Kupiansk, their relatives said. Supplies of food and medicines could only be flown in by drone.

“When the lads arrived at the frontlines, they weighed over 80–90kg. But now they weigh around 50kg,” Silchuk posted. After one delivery, she said, no more food turned up for 10 days. The soldiers were forced to drink rainwater and melt snow to survive.

“The longest they went without food was 17 days. They weren’t listened to on the radio, or perhaps no one wanted to listen to them. My husband shouted and begged, saying there was no food and water,” she said, adding that the problem was bigger than just one case.

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    Having a tendency to always read sentences in halves. I went straight into clicking the article, I was shocked at how very little remains on the bones of those men at was very disgusted at how Russia is torturing its prisoners.

    I started reading the article from the bottom. and that testimony of the woman who said that since the news went public, her husband wrote wrote to her reassuring her that they have started receiving more food, this confused me cause since when did Ukrainian prisoners in Russia get to write back to their families.

    I went up the article, and that’s when I truly was shocked to discover that these men were not uks prisoners in Russia but Ukrainian combatants in the front line who haven’t eaten for 17 days. I can’t even imagine going for 5 days without food let alone 17 days. and that this is all done to them by their own commanders forcing them to defend slivers of land with zero regard to their condition. contrast that with the hundred of thousands of young Ukrainian men who fled the country because they had the means to bribe to escape. I don’t blame those who are doing their best to dodge the draft in such an unfair regime.

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    Good luck to the soldiers who decided to go public with their situation. I hope they get rotated out and get some extremely deserved rest, if they get lucky then until war is over.

    As for the brigade commander, unless he can show the court spectacular excuses, I sincerely hope he likes it in jail, because without a spectacular excuse, that’s where things are heading for him.

    One does not leave units to die, but recalls them. If one cannot recall an unit, one does not lie about it, and supplies them with all available means of staying alive and getting out.

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    Now that Hungary is finally free from putins cock puppet and the EU loan is released, hopefully this sort of situation can be avoided.

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      This is not a problem of funds. It’s been a choice made by the higher ups in the Ukrainian military. there have been countless times where it became evident that Ukrainian soldiers are being surrounded and the choices were either to retract them. or keep them in their position without food or ammunition until they get annihilated. And they choice was always to let them be encircled and let them fight to the last one. It’s been seen in Avdivka and many other cities

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      Avoided? All the EU loan will do is prolong this situation. Ukraine has absolutely no chance of winning that should be crystal clear after the previous hundred billion. More Ukrainians will be thrown into the meat grinder to meat the exact same fate as this man just to weaken Russia. Of which the oil is being unsanctioned so that both sides now have more money to throw conscripts into the meatgrinder. What a fantastic resolution.

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        What’s your solution then? Force Ukraine to surrender, so Russia can starve Ukrainians without them being able to shoot back?

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          Just stop giving Ukraine money so they have to come to an agreement. You’re talking as if the average Ukrainian concript wants to get sent to the frontline to die for a pointless war which will result in Ukraine losing anyway when Europe loses interest.

          Unlike actual resistance fighters, Ukrainians don’t want to participate in the war.

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            Europe losing interest has been a talking point since 2022 but it has never actually happened.

            It certainly is a pointles war, but not becuase of Ukraine. As long as Ukraine as a country wants to keep fighting, I see no reason not the help them defend them selves.

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              Ukraine as a country doesn’t want to keep fighting at all. There’s a reason Zelensky is not allowing elections. Ukrainians are as happy to go into the meat grinder as the average Russian.

              Europe promised to give Ukraine what they needed to win and then gave Ukraine their old equipment to just barely keep hanging on while Europe bought new military gear. Not the mention the age demographics aren’t looking too hot. Manpower isn’t infinite.

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            An “agreement” under duress that includes territorial concessions. And the inhabitants of those territories will then promptly be genocided.

            And then Russia will attack again when they’ve rearmed, to do the same to the rest of Ukraine.

            Amazing solution.

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      I’m not super well versed on all of this in Ukraine, is there a reason this suggests that this was unavoidable before?

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        It waswas definitely avoidable but the situation for many soldiers in forward positions is tense at the best of times.

        I am no expert on this but I believe the additional funds will not improve the situation for the grunts in the trenches significantly because the issue is not a lack of materials. Instead it’s the ubiquity of cheap kamikaze and spotter drones that makes logistics so difficult because any sizeable movement attracts an immediate response.

        I think instead the funds will to a significant portion be spent on purchasing material that are actually in short supply like missile interceptors to bolster defense against Russian air threats beyond drones.

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            My main source of information on the Ukraine conflict is Perun, an Aussie working in or at least adjacent to the military industrial complex. He has a playlist of presentations (he basically delivers narrated PowerPoint presentations instead of “traditional” videos) on Ukraine.

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              I see, checked them out a bit. Kind of frustrating that it appears as though this is just someone who has worked in defense contracting and the sources they list are just typically news sites (which indicates to me they don’t have access to or do not use whatever scholarly access they would have if they have a degree related to this). So, they seem like more of a reporter who is aggregating news coverage with some public documentation.

              I’m sure their videos can be informative, but I’m more curious about how this is argued and measured as many experts in these fields are pretty incapable of articulating how systemic, material, and social conditions facilitate instances like this and how reflective they are of individuals’ decisions or systemic dysfunction.

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                Perun approaches the topic from an economical and strategic viewpoint. And yes, he uses mostly open source information because it would be very unwise for his career to use any form of insider information he might possess. Though if you have a look around the channel you can also find some interviews with experts in specific fields. And also yes, if you are more interested in the day-to-day situation on the ground I’d recommend checking out other channels as well. It’s his stated goal to provide a top down view.

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                  Oh, what I was talking about would still be a top down analysis, just one that is more informed and nuanced to create better explanations. Economic and political lenses exclusively tend to be distortive and only useful for people who subscribe to their preexisting explanations for things (and it doesn’t seem like this person is qualified to produce those beyond their individual experiences).

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      Thank you товарищ, 500 Rubles have been deposited in your account.

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      And who are those estimates from? The same people who estimated they’d defeat Ukraine in three days?

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      And I heard you were a little bit years ago and will be a little bit in 2028 when the Ruasian rape machine offs itself.

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          Bro like I never said you were. I said you were a little bitch and Russia will fall. Both can be true. But now I believe you are Russian.

          And even if you aren’t a true Russian. You might as well be one cause you obviously love the taste of poorly made leather boots.

          Bro.

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        The Ukrainian side has generally more realistic information because their side is able to be fact checked by the rest of the world for a lot of it.

        The Russian side is significantly more heavily controlled from a media perspective.

        Most accurate information typically comes from independent analysts pouring over all the data and coming up with a “this is the most realistic guess”

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          From what I read, Russia is gaining ground so slowly it would take decades just to take over the areas they claimed, with extremely heavy losses. Both sides can’t achieve a strategic push because of the drone hellscape in the vast grey zone.
          And it’s unclear on both sides how long they can sustain the political will to fight.
          So barring some new development, it’s a stalemate that eats 40000 people per month.
          Is that about right?

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            It is a stalemate that Russia could end in days by withdrawing from Ukrainian territory. Ukraine can only end it by dissolving or winning.

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            In short, yes. I’d say Russia probably has the edge since Ukraine’s manpower issues are much worse, but it’s hard to say.

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            Saving for “and Russia could get its ass handed to it handily at any point if any nation had the willpower to step in and stand with Ukraine”